CAM-WOOD BR-25KNUR End Knurling/Tapping MachineThe BR-2KNUR machine is designed for knurling or threading operations on the turned end to achieve secure jointing effect.Features: --The machine is a high production, automatic unit and is pneumatically operated with air clamp by a foot switch for convenient operation. --The machine is supplied with one knurling cutterhead as standard. -- Further sizes of knurling cuttinghead are optionally available.Specifications: -- Horizontal Motor: 1 HP. -- Drill Speed: 3,450 RPM. -- Cutter Heads: Custom made. -- Spindle Stroke (Max.) 5" -- Table size 12" X 10". -- Air Clamp (1). -- Standard Head (1); Additional sizes $ 658.00 -- Net Weight 256 Lbs

CAM-WOOD BR-25MILL Round / Taper / Bull Nose or Shape Milling MachineDesigned for producing a, round / taper / bull nose or shape section at the end rod turningSpecifications: -- The unit is pneumatically operated with an air clamp and controlled by a footswitch for convenient operation. -- The machine is supplied with one (1) set of cutterheads as standard, cutterhead dia. as per customer specification. -- Additional cutterhead sizes available at $698.00 per size.

CAM-WOOD RM-30100-AT Dowel Milling Machine;1-1/8"; x 4"; Multiple Round Pole Machine: Each Size Cutter head is $1,640 (Includes one size Top & Bottom Cutter Head & Hold Down Tooling), - Different sizes will need an additional cutter head set.Equipped with & Features: -- This RM30AT is capable of producing multiple rods or two side moulding at a high production rate. -- It is built with top and bottom cutter spindle for typically cutting wood board into round rods. -- When cutters are replaced with planner cutter heads this machine can perform double sides planning or moulding. -- It can be used for flat boards without pre-cutting. -- Variable speed feeding for fast and easy adjustment. -- Industrial full power motor for maximum cutting capacity. -- Magnetic switch control. -- Precision sealed long-life bearing. -- Heavy cast iron frames and table for durability usage. -- Designed for high production performance. -- The number of round rods per pass is determined by the diameter to be cut, the maximum cutting width is 4" (100 mm). -- Cutting capacity Ø 2- Ø 30 mm in diameter. -- Easy adjustment in every way, is more convenient than competitive machines.Specifications: -- Max. Working Width 4". -- Range of Rod Diameter 1/8" - 1-1/8". -- Motor of Top Spindle 7.5 HP; Motor of Bottom Spindle 7.5 HP; Feed Motor 1 HP. -- Cutter Speed 6,500 RPM. -- Feed Speed 15 - 45 FPM maximum. -- Cutter Diameter 4" - Spindle Diameter 1-1/4"; or 30 mm. -- Dust Hood 4"; x 2". -- Machine Size 70"; x 33"; x 49";.Extra cutter Heads (2) pieces per set each size $1,690

CAM-WOOD SD-220 Dowel Sanding Machine - Double Belt Double sanding belt round pole sanding machine. Rod is manually fed then automatically advances and revolves at the chosen feed speed.Specifications: -- 1/4" - 3-1/4" dia. working capacity. -- Heavy-duty industrial 5 HP Motor is able to sand with up to 5,000 FPM abrasive belt speed. -- (2) 5" x 73" Sanding belts, easy belt tension & tracking adjustments. -- Variable feed speed from 18 - 60 FPM, 0.5 HP dust exhaust motor. -- Heavy-Duty sheet metal frame for durability and many years of use. -- This unit is suitable for the sanding of straight round poles, tapered round poles and double-pointed round poles. -- It is also applicable for pool stick sanding in fully automatic mode.

CAM-WOOD CF-80B Single Belt Round Rod Sanding Machine;A single belt sander that is suitable for sanding round rod from Ø 5 to Ø 80 mm (0.196" - 3") in diameter.Features: -- Priced for economical and intermediate finish, yet built for versatile sanding operation for wood, rattan, metal, acrylic, graphite. -- Fastest feed speed range from 6 to 20 m/Min (19 - 65 FPM). -- Easy change if abrasive belt in seconds. -- Same high quality features as "CF-80B2" Double Belt Round Rod Sanding Machine.Specifications: -- Range of working Dia. 5 mm to 80 mm (3-1/8"). -- Range of working length: 100 mm - 1,000 mm (3.9 - 39"). -- Drive motor: 3 HP -- Vacuum suction motor 1/2 HP -- Sanding belt size: 125 mm X 1,860 mm ( 5" X 73"). -- Belt speed 18 m/Sec.(700 IPS) -- Feed speed: 6 - 20 m/Min (19 - 65 FPM).Machine size: 750 mm L X 510 mm W X 1,340 mm H; Net Weight: 290 kG (635 Lbs).

CAM-WOOD HSTC-62 HIGH SPEED LONG BOARD VERTICAL FINGER JOINTER with the following Specifications: HSTC-62A Infeed Belt Conveyor: -- Working dimension: 24"; wide x 16’ long -- Speed at 110 FPM -- One 3 HP Inverter Drive Motor SHAPER #1: DFSR-62I - Left Side Heavy Duty Finger Joint Shaper -- Working dimension: 24"; wide x 1"; to 10"; high x 8"; to 16' long -- Scoring Saw: 2 HP motor -- Scoring Saw Blade: 7"; diameter x 50 tooth -- Scoring Saw speed: 2,850 RPM -- Trim Saw Spindle: 15 HP motor -- Trim Saw Blade: 12"; diameter x 80 tooth -- Trim Saw Speed: 2,800 RPM -- (2) Finger Joint Spindles, (1) for rough cut and (1) for finish cut, each with a 30 HP motor -- Spindle diameter: 50 mm -- Diameter of cutterhead possible without knives: 8-1/4"; -- Shaper Spindle speed: 3,800 RPM -- Conveyor belt with 3 HP Inverter Drive -- Table cycle by 3 HP Drive Motor -- Table cycle speed from (1) to (4) cycles per minute (depends on work)HSTC-62A HEAVY SINGLE TABLE OUTFEED TRANSFER CONVEYOR -- Working dimension: 24"; wide X 16’ long -- Speed at 110 FPM -- One 3 HP Inverter DriveHSTC-62A SINGLE TABLE INFEED TRANSFER CONVEYOR -- Working dimension: 24"; wide X 16' long -- Speed at 110 FPM -- One 3 HP Inverter DriveSHAPER #2: DFSR-62I - RIGHT SIDE HEAVY DUTY FINGER JOINT SHAPER WITH GLUE APPLICATOR -- Working dimension: 24"; wide x 1"; to 10"; high x 8"; to 16' long -- Scoring Saw: 2 HP motor -- Scoring Saw Blade: 7"; diameter x 50 tooth -- Scoring Saw speed: 2,850 RPM -- Trim Saw Spindle: 15 HP motor -- Trim Saw Blade: 12"; diameter x 80 tooth -- Trim Saw Speed: 2,800 RPM -- (2) Finger Joint Spindles, (1) for rough cut and (1) for finish cut, each with a 30 HP motor -- Spindle diameter: 50 mm -- Diameter of cutterhead possible without knives: 8-1/4"; -- Shaper Spindle speed: 3,800 RPM -- Conveyor belt with 3 HP Inverter Drive -- Table cycle by 3 HP Drive Motor -- Injection type adhesive spreader with standard glue height of 10"; -- Glue system included is for PVAC. -- Optional APQUIP Glue System available at extra cost -- Optional Glue Equipment available for Loctite HB X Glue at extra price -- Deduct ...$5,200 if provided without a Glue SystemHSTC-62B OUTFEED CONVEYOR WITH BELT CLEANER -- Working dimension 24"; long X 16’ wide -- Speed at 115 FPM -- (1) 3 HP Inverter Drive -- (1) 1/2 HP motor for conveyor cleaning device HSCB-62 TIPPING CONVEYOR W/NARROW CONVEYOR -- Flips boards from vertical to horizontal for automatic feed to the Press -- Working dimensions: -- (1) Conveyor at 24"; wide x 16’ long -- (1) Conveyor at 8"; wide x 16’ long -- Speed 110 FPM -- 3 HP Inverter Drive UFJ-600 FINGER JOINT CONTINOUS ASSEMBLY MACHINE FOR INFINITE LENGTHS -- Working dimension 1-3/8"; to 10’ wide X 1"; to 4"; thick by unlimited lengths -- In-feed speed from 100 to 165 FPM -- Cut-Off Saw: 7-1/2 HP -- Cut-Off Saw Speed: 2,850 RPM -- Cut-Off Saw blade dimensions: 18"; diameter x 1"; bore x 120 tooth carbide tipped -- Hydraulic Pow

CAM-WOOD SFJ-3800-205-FM-FAH HIGH SPEED, LONG BOARD, HORIZONTAL JOINT, FINGER JOINTER: Specifications: -- Double Chain & Slat Type Shaper Section designed for long incoming boards -- Manual infeed; Slat Bed Feed Chain runs at up to 75 FPM; lugs on 30" centers. Slat Bed powered with a 15 HP gear motor with 1:40 gear ratio. -- Table Transfer Conveyor (Powered), even ends boards to the Right and Left Shaper Fences: powered by (2) 7-1/2 HP motors -- Power raising and lowering of the holddown assemblies on both Shaper Sections; Powered with (2) 2 HP motors -- (1) Pair Scoring Saws with 2 HP motors, 50mm arbor, 2,850 RPM, scoring blade size of 7"; x 50 tooth, (4) Blades included -- (1) Pair Trim Saws with 10 HP motors, 50mm arbor, 4,275 RPM, trim saw blade size of 10"; x 100 tooth. (2) Blades included -- (1) Pair Vertical Hogging Shaper Spindles with 10 HP motors, 50mm arbor, 4,375 RPM, hogging blade size of 9.4"; x 50-tooth. (2) Blades included -- (1) Pair Vertical Finish Shaper Spindles with 20 HP motors, 50mm diameter spindles, 5,300 RPM. For -- 50mm bore x 160mm dia. cutterheads; finger length of 1.122";; cutterheads and knife profile to buyer’s specification -- Extrusion Type Glue Application System for PVAC Glues; mounted on Right Side Shaper Section. Includes glue pump, valves, and glue injection thru the applicator comb machined to buyer's specifications. -- Optional APQUIP Glue System available at extra cost -- Optional Glue Equipment available for Loctite HB X Glue at extra price -- Deduct $5,200 if provided without a Glue SystemSCC-20 TRANSFER CONVEYOR -- Conveyor between Shaper Section to the Press Section -- Working dimension: from 1"; to 8"; wide x 12"; to 12’-6"; long -- Speed 230 FPM -- Powered by (1) 3 HP HSC-65 HIGH-SPEED PRE-PRESS ASSEMBLY SECTION -- Working dimensions: 1"; to 8"; wide x 3/4"; to 2-1/4"; high x up to 21’ long -- (2) 5 HP motors drive the double flat-top chains -- Feed speeds from 32 to 295 FPM -- Includes (1) 15 HP Frequency Converter to power the feed chain motors at speeds determined by incoming boards lengths NFJ-1500 50’ HEAVY-DUTY AUTOMATIC ASSEMBLY PRESS -- Working dimension: 1"; to 8"; wide x 3/4"; to 2-1/4"; high x up to 50’ long -- Power of upper rollers: (2) 3 HP motors with a 1:10 gear ratio -- Power of lower roller: (1) 5 HP motor with a 1:10 gear ratio -- In-feed Inverter: (1) 15 HP motor -- In-feed speed: From 32 to 295 FPM -- Cut-off saw: With 7.5 HP motor driving the arbor at 2,850 RPM -- Sawblade: 14"; Diameter x 120 tooth -- Hydraulic power to the Pressing Cylinders: (2) 20HP with high-speed oil tank -- Hydraulic pressure output: 1,700 PSI at the joint -- Capacity (1) to (4) 50’ assembled boards per minute -- Machine comes arranged with equipment to assemble (3) sizes of material cross sections according to buyer’s specifications for width within +/-3/16"; width toleranceSYSTEM REQUIREMENTS FOR INCOMING BOARDS -- Incoming lumber length: 1’ to 12

CAM-WOOD SFJ-460L FINGER JOINT ASSEMBLY PRESS SYSTEM With Optional GluingDescription: -- The SFJ-460L is an automatic Assembly System, Cutoff Saw, and Press. The system performs three functions; pre-assembles finger jointed blocks with glue previously applied in the FSG 150 manual Glue Applicator (not included), cuts the assembled boards to length, and performs the final assembly when pressed by a powerful hydraulic system. When pressing is complete, boards are fed out of the Press. -- Power feed for feeding boards, stops automatically at the desired board length using the included cut-off saw as standard equipment for cutting boards to length. -- The maximum assembled board length is 15'. Specifications: -- Max. length capacity, 188"; max. width, 6"; max. thickness, 3". -- Feed speeds from 0 - 26 FPM; -- Cutoff Saw runs at 3,500 RPM and is powered by a 5 HP motor; Blade diameter is 355 mm (14") with a 1" arbor; -- With 1/2 HP feed motor and 5 HP hydraulic pump motor. Option: -- Manual Gluing unit FSG 150 Additional $ 8,990Note: Same press with 6,000 mm (19.7') capacity additional price is $6,900

CARLSON CD PINNER PLUS Cabinet Door Clamp & Pinner; 30" Wide x 48" High max. Capability. The ProMax Cabinet Door Pinner is an affordable system that squares, clamps and fastens a variety of cabinet door styles and sizes. This machine is designed to handle stile widths between 1-1/4" and 3-1/2" in 1/8" increments and any rail widths. Standard product minimum: approximately 7" wide X 6" tall for 2" stile and rail cabinet doors. Standard product maximum: approximately 30" wide X 60" tall for 2" stile and rail cabinet doors.General Specifications: -- Standard joy stick operation allows quick and accurate size adjustments. -- The frame is ergonomically designed at an angle for easy placement of sub-assembled door parts and fast removal of the finished product. -- Operating controls are simple and convenient to minimize training time. -- Machine functions are air powered with programmable electrical controls for accurate and reliable operation.Includes: -- Air motor drive system. -- Standard clamp pads. -- Cope & Stick door fastening. -- Spare tool assembly. -- Size upgrade - Height 60". -- Miter capability. -- Safety light curtain. Features: -- Heavy duty frame, low maintenance, powered size adjustments, precision linear bearings, overhead mar-proof clamping, programmable controller.

CAROLINA BULK BAG FILLING MACHINECarolina Conveying filling stations are used to safely and efficiently load bulk bags. A filling head with an inflatable seal is used for dust-tight loading of the bulk bag, and bolts to the adjustable height framework. The inlet to the filling head is connected to the customer’s equipment above via a flexible tube. The bag spout is secured to the outlet with an inflatable seal. The seal inflation is controlled by a manual on/off spool valve, which pipes air to the unit. A cavity around the outerperimeter allows displaced air and dust to exit the filling head through a dust extraction nozzleSpecifications & Features: -- Rated for 5,000 Lbs, Bag fill up to 4000 Lbs. -- Platform size 48" x 48" -- Bulk Bag Filler Stations are used to safely and efficiently load bulk bags. -- A filling head with an inflatable seal is used for dust-tight loading of the bulk bag, and bolts to the adjustable framework height. -- The inlet to the filling head is connected to the customer's equipment above via a flexible tube. -- The bag spout is secured to the outlet with an inflatable seal. -- The seal inflation is controlled by a manual on/off spool valve, which pipes air to the unit. -- A cavity around the outer perimeter allows displaced air and dust to exit the filling head through a dust extraction nozzle. -- Support frame with adjustable rack. -- Support arms; Four adjustable height arms for loop-type bags. -- Inlet 8" round flange, ASA 150 Bolt hole pattern. -- Inflatable seal; White seamless gum rubber tube. -- Dust spigot 3" o.d. tube - 71 -- Weight platform with Digital Scale - 84 -- Output for digital readout is included - 7185

CAROLINA BLOWER 45-6 Standard Duty Fan/Motor package assembled complete 30 HP motor. -- Rated at 8,860 CFM at 10" SP. Fan inlet diameter is 19". -- Fabricated with 3/8" thick wheel blades, 1/4" thick housing, primed and painted beige. 30 HP TEFC motor. Unitary base, V-belt drives, shaft, and belt safety guards. -- This is an Industrial Material Handling fan with paddle-wheel construction. Also available in Heavy Duty version at extra cost, with thicker scroll-housing to handle airborne smaller solid wood or similar material.

CAROLINA BLOWER Size 80-6 Material Handling Fan with Motor. --Specification: -- Can handle approx 35,000 CFM @ 11" SP and 840 RPM. -- Comes with: Westinghouse Life-Line (high efficiency) 125 HP, 405T frame, ODP Motor complete with pulleys.. -- Motor is not mounted on base. -- Actual Model is 80-6SD.

CASADEI - KS-340, ...Sliding Table Saw w/TigerFenceSpecifications & Features -- 132" Slide capability with: 9 HP Main saw motor; 15-3/4" main blade dia.; 1 HP scoring motor; 5" score blade dia.; 4-15/16" max. depth of cut 90°; motorized saw arbor tilting 0° to 45° with digital readout; motorized raise & lower of both arbors. -- Equipped with: -- (3) Main saw arbor speeds of 2,900 - 4,000 & 5,600 RPM; max. cutting width to rip fence is 50". -- Fixed table size 27" x 45"; sliding table 14-3/4" x 124". -- Complete with: -- Powered auto-positioning TigerFence rip fence; crosscut fence with: (2) Swing-stops, overarm saw guard, and magnetic starter with overload protection.

CASADEI ALA 23 EDGEBANDER WITH CORNER ROUNDING0.4 - 15 mm (1/2") Edge cap., panel thickness 10 to 60 mm (.39" to 2.36"). Minimum panel length 120 mm (4-3/4") and 55 mm (2-1/8") minimum width. Equipped with: -- Quick heat-up glue system,(approx. 12 Min) 1.5 Kg glue pot capacity. -- Pressure roll section with (3) rolls - one driven. Pneumatic cut-off guillotine.Workstations: -- Double end trim, chamfers 0° - 15° -- Top & bottom flush/radius trim, bevels 0° - 15°. -- Double motor Corner Rounding station -- Top & bottom scraping for 3 mm radius, -- Top & bottom buffing (0.25 HP - 2,800 RPM motors).NOTE: Seller states that the buffing unit appears to have an electrical issue and is not currently being used by the current owner";Actual Model: "ALA 23 R"

CASADEI FLEXA 47 RMA8 EDGEBANDER (W/PRE-MILL & CORNER ROUNDING):Specifications: -- 0.4 mm - 3 mm Max. edge thickness cap., (0.5 mm to 3 mm for solid strip edge thickness). 8 mm - 50 mm (0.3" - 1.97") panel thickness cap. (when edgebanding 3 mm PVC max. thickness is 40 mm). -- Minimum panel dimensions 80 mm wide x 140 mm long (3.15" x 5.5"). -- Automatic feed of coil banding and semi-automatic strip fed magazine (strips 1- 3 mm max.) with 3 mm PVC cap. guillotine.Equipped with: -- Teflon coated glue pot w/fast (10 - 12) Min heat-up time; 1 Kg. capacity. -- Guillotine to cut edgebanding in coils up to 3 mm thick. -- Pneumatically controlled pressure section with (3) pressure rollers; 1st drive, (2) idle.Workstations: -- Pre-milling unit with 3 HP - 8,300 RPM High Frequency motors. -- Cutting group moves on rounded ways made of hardened steel, to guarantee high precision and reliability; cutting movement from the top of the panel is synchronized by the PLC control. -- Single motor, double-end trimming saw unit with (1) 0.25 HP - 12,000 RPM High Frequency motor. -- Top & Bottom Trim station with (2) 0.45 HP - 12,000 RPM High-Frequency motors; unit features adjustable copying on vertical & horizontal floating movements, adjustable cutter-head position by mechanical digital readouts, quick release (electrical & mechanical). -- Includes (2) 3 mm radius cutters. -- Corner Rounding Unit: 2-Motor Corner Rounding unit for leading & trailing edges. -- Top & Bottom 3 mm scrape station -- Top & Bottom Buffing unit with (2) 0.20 HP - 1,400 RPM motors. -- Fixed feed speed 23 FPM. -- Actual Model is CASADEI FLEXA 47 RMA8

CASADEI RANGER MC 3012 CNC MACHINING CENTER (VERTICAL, W/ATC): -- Specifications: Flexible "Vertical" Machining Center reaches movement speeds of 131 FPM (40 MPM) in X-axis, 98 FPM (30 MPM) in Y-axis, & 66 FPM (20 MPM) in Z-axis. -- Work Capacity:Max. part size for: X-Axis is 118" (3,000 mm); Y-axis 47.2" (1,200 mm); max. part thickness 3.9" (100 mm). -- Worktable:Vertical Phenolic MATRIX Grid table with: (5) Adjustable "tubeless" pneumatic locking panel supports, (3) adjustable vacuum pods per support.Pop Up Pneumatic backstops & pneumatic side stops for material positioning on the LH or RH side of the machine for mirror imaging. -- Boring Unit:(1) Boring block with: 2.25 HP (1.7 kW) - 4,000 RPM Motor.(10) Vertical spindles with: (5) Spindles in X-axis & (5) spindles in Y-axis.(6) Horizontal spindles with (2 + 2) in X-axis & (1 + 1) horizontal spindle in Y-axis.(1) X-Axis grooving saw: 5,000 RPM; for max. 120 mm dia. saw blade. -- Machining:(1) 6.7 HP (5 kW) Router with: ISO 30 Adaptor, variable speed from 1,000 - 18,000 RPM.(1) 5-Position ATC rack mounted on the side of the working unit. -- Operator & Machine Control:CNi PC Front End + Windows "XP" Operating System; 17" LCD, TFT monitor; international keyboard, soft touch keypad & industrial mouse; RS-232 Serial ports, USB ports; Ethernet connection.Real-time multitask processing; programs can be transferred via USB or downloading by wire is possible. -- Complete with:(1) 100 CBM/Hr BECKER Vacuum Pump; sound enclosure & perimeter safety devices. -- Actual Model is: CASADEI - RANGER MC 3012.

CASADEI FLEXA 17 Edgebander with Pre-Mill --÷Good versatile machine for small shop use, with fairly simple adjustments. --Specifications:0.4 mm - 3 mm Max. edge thickness cap., (0.5 mm to 3 mm for solid strip edge thickness ). 8 mm - 50 mm (0.3" - 1.97") panel thickness cap. (when edgebanding 3 mm PVC max. thickness is 40 mm). -- Minimum panel dimensions 80 mm wide x 140 mm long (3.15" x 5.5"). -- Automatic feed of coil banding and semi-automatic strip fed magazine (strips 1- 3 mm max.) with 3 mm PVC cap. guillotine. --Equipped with: --Teflon coated glue pot w/fast (10 - 12) Min heat-up time; 1 Kg. capacity. -- Guillotine to cut edgebanding in coils up to 3 mm thick. -- Pneumatically controlled pressure section with (3) pressure rollers; 1st drive, (2) idle. --Work stations: -- Premilling unit with 3 HP - 8,300 RPM High Frequency motors. -- Single motor, double end trimming saw unit with (1) 0.25 HP - 12,000 RPM High Frequency motor. -- Cutting group moves on rounded ways made of hardened steel, to guarantee high precision and reliability; cutting movement from the top of the panel is synchronized by the PLC control. -- Top & Bottom Trim station with (2) 0.45 HP - 12,000 RPM High Frequency motors; unit features adjustable copying on vertical & horizontal floating movements, adjustable cutterhead position by mechanical digital readouts, quick release (electrical & mechanical). -- Includes (2) 3 mm radius cutters. -- Top & Bottom 3 mm scrape station -- Top & Bottom Buffing unit with (2) 0.20 HP - 1,400 RPM motors. -- Fixed feed speed 23 FPM.

CASOLIN ST SA Entry Door ClampSpecification: -- 6' x 12' Opening. -- Hydrauilcally operated.

CASTLE TSM-21 Pocket Hole Boring Machine;Single hole routing system for use with material from 1/2" - 3/4" thickness; -- CASTLE'S "A-Frame" motor carriage engineered to first route a pocket and then drill hole from the other direction. -- Equipped with: 1.5 HP Porter Cable router w/standard "4-flute" router bit for pocket routing and Porter Cable #7301 drill for pilot hole drilling with 9/64" brad point drill bit; foot pedal actuated cycle, will cycle as quickly as (2) cycles/sec. -- The large 2" dia. holddown cylinder firmly clamps material and the low 6" boring angle minimizes shifting, reduces screw breakout and splitting.The TSM-21 is an improved version on the TSM-20. It features a more accurate carriage design, magnetic switches, and solit state electronics.

CATERPILLAR M318C WHEELED EXCAVATOR w/ SCRAP MAGNET --Features: (2) sets of outriggers 48" Magnet Generator onboard for magnet --Hours: Approx. 4,536 --All equipment is advertised to the best of our knowledge and everything is sold “AS IS"; with no guarantees.